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A very well-written smuggler fight. What sets this apart, for me, is that while three combatants are going at it, everyone else is reacting in real-time to the fallout of the fight, as opposed to joining the fray. It really encompasses all elements of what an actual fight would be, and that's always a plus in my book.[/quote:3rf4ofpq]

Bulthos only mentioned [u:3rf4ofpq]three combatants[/u:3rf4ofpq] so those were the three that were judged, he went on to quote Erin, Wade and Ade. If it had taken anymore then it was nominated under the wrong award tbh, a large group of fights should be Best War/Engagement not Player vs Player.

Other parts weren't ignored by the judges (they were actually refenced in the judgements) but it was the three way fight that the judging focused on as that was what was nominated.

If you consider yourself to be a big part of that rp then you know that you are an award winner even if you didn't get a badge for it. In the end the Sithies only matter as much as you want them to.

[quote="Kerren Vay-Vhett":3kug6d54] If it had taken anymore then it was nominated under the wrong award tbh, a large group of fights should be Best War/Engagement not Player vs Player. [/quote:3kug6d54]

This.

It was the best player vs player combat award, we stretched the rules to allow a threesome...I mean threeway fight. The award wasn't for the story arc as a whole, wasn't for the build up, the environment, the background or those stood watching. Just those actually fighting. Hence those who were nominated as the combatants won the award. Sorry if you got the wrong end of the stick, but you were mistaken as to the purpose of this particular award.

[quote="Dark Lord Villa":1qutdo7a]...or those stood watching. Just those actually fighting.[/quote:1qutdo7a]
Lol. If you had read the fight, you'd realize the irony of those words in light of the fact that Ade got the nomination and award.

But in all fairness, you guys didn't nominate him. You just used what you were given to work with.


And does three people getting in a fight (or even four) really merit going into the best war/engagement section? It still seemed more like a player v. player, since everyone involved was a PC (I figured the difference between the two was that one involved NPC's and the other didn't).

What about those lying bloody and full of holes and burned to a crisp? No, no, I get it. That all makes sense. Thanks ^_^

[quote="Kerren Vay-Vhett":2ervt8xj]If you consider yourself to be a big part of that rp then you know that you are an award winner even if you didn't get a badge for it. In the end the Sithies only matter as much as you want them to.[/quote:2ervt8xj]
Liya wasn't necessarily a big part. Like I said I got burned down pretty quickly. But several other people were involved more than Ade was in the combat part of the scenario.

It sounds like the real problem is that the fight is in a grey area that doesn't really fit either of the award categories. Maybe a mass PC battle could go on the list of possible awards to add in the future? I see why it's not comparable to a one on one duel, but it's not comparable to armies of NPCs or fleets of starships battling, either.

The best engagement award was given to a fight involving a couple of tanks and about ten people, it wasn't a huge war, it was a skirmish. Player vs Player was set up for duels, and we allowed a three way fight as well this year.

But the problem seems to be more with the nomination itself then what we did with it. We judge what we are asked by players to judge, that is the way it is set up, to win an award you need to first get nominated.

EDIT:
BTW for anyone that doesn't know I'm Kerren as well (forgot what account I was on)

For simplicity sake, and because I can't be kriff with nitpicking, the award was envisaged for a 1-on-1 duel but the rules were stetched in this case. Because this apparently causes issue next year this flexibility will not be the case, the award will not be for any more than 2 characters duelling/fighting.

Case closed.

The system this year is definitely an improvement, but I do have one question: I can understand there being a "maximum" limit of nominations you can make, but why is it you can't nominate less if you honestly can't bring three to mind? I might have an inkling of the reasoning for it but I thought I'd ask and get a true confirmation.

From my point of view there's a few reasons:

1. Increased participation, a few people last year mentioned that they were happy to just have been nominated
2. If we allow less that 3, I was worried that people would simply nominate 1 RPer and it could end up closer to the original system but without the quoting.
3. To make sure the chance of a Top 5 to go through to final judging process is at its highest. Would be Sithspit if we aimed for a Top 5 and ended up with 2...

Those where my reasons. Hope they help and thanks for the early feedback - we will be once again be seeking feedback and refining at the end of this years awards

I figured the answer was at least something similar to 3, just wanted to be certain and the other answers clear it up even more perfectly. Thanks for the answer, keep up the good work, and good luck with this year's ceremonies. :)

Can the couple be NPCs?

No, PC couples only, sorry

Out of curiosity, why are we only allowed to nominate one person per category on the old system? Because I can think of quite a few people/posts I'd like to nominate for some of those.

[quote="Adrien Draykon":v8dxbg6k]Out of curiosity, why are we only allowed to nominate one person per category on the old system? Because I can think of quite a few people/posts I'd like to nominate for some of those.[/quote:v8dxbg6k]

Alas, not everyone is as industrious as yourself. I know for certain that many people simply couldn't be arsed with digging out a lot of posts, not that this is a dig to them because I'm very kriff lazy myself.

It's why I made Sheeps Head of nemoidian

[quote="Dark Lord Villa":33pf6asu]I know for certain that many people simply couldn't be arsed with digging out a lot of posts, not that this is a dig to them because I'm very kriff lazy myself. [/quote:33pf6asu]

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I was just wondering because there are some people that I would like to nominate for the same category, posts won't be difficult to find.

I don't know if this has been brought up before, but it seems a little redundant to have like an award for best Male, best Female, best Mandalorian, best Lightsider, best Darksider, best Non-Force Character and then do a best Overall RPer award, especially since invariably you're going to end up with people getting another nomination from the previous categories (which is not so much an issue). It just seems like things would get tricky when the best overall RPer is not a winner from a previous category (some examples: Malice wins best Mando, but Kerren Vay-Vhett wins best overall. OR Adrien wins best male, but Aerandir wins best overall), like can you see what I'm getting at?
Best Overall RPer sort of seems like an award that would be judged from the winners of the previous 'best' categories, not have it's own pool of nominees. It would be like the academy awards giving 6 movies a majority of 'best' awards, then giving Best Picture to a movie that was only nominated in some of the previous categories.

Best Male/Female, Best Dark/Lightsider, Best Mando etc.... are all aimed at singular characters. Best Overall is aimed at the best overall RPer, ie taking into account ALL their characters, NPCs etc.

^Basically what he said

Best Overall is about the writer, it's someone who is an amazing rper whoever or whatever they are writing. It can take into account their npcs and their alts. We often do see people that feature in the other catagories show up again, but it also give people who write characters that don't really try to be the best of a certain catagory to shine. For example if they were writing a jedi, they may not exude lightside in every post so not making it as a best lightsider, but their lightside character may be strong in other ways by creating an interesting personality for them.

[quote="Zion Morviael":10h9ed6r]Malice wins best Mando, but Kerren Vay-Vhett wins best overall[/quote:10h9ed6r]

And, I totally deserve both those awards, I am the best mando and rper ever ;)

Possible suggestion for next years awards: "Mother-Goose Award" for the the person who does the most to look after other players.

[quote="Kirus":29i0fm14]Possible suggestion for next years awards: "Mother-Goose Award" for the the person who does the most to look after other players.[/quote:29i0fm14]

See, the only trouble there is, there probably wont be very many people to qualify for it. Also, on the whole (if not all, I can't remember every award right this moment), the Sithies is a reflection, and reward, for actual roleplay, rather than OOC contributions. So while the notion is certainly worthy of mention, I doubt it would really hold any weight when considered alongside other, roleplay-oriented, potential awards. The Admins have to limit the number of awards to keep the whole shabang feasible, and of course, there's at least 7/8 awards (Best Lightsider, Best Overall, Best JotW etc) that HAVE to be included, so the chopping and changing of awards really boils down to maybe 4/5 places. This is why some awards feature one year, but not the next.

Having said that though, it could maybe be considered as some sort of "honourable mention", or something, rather than an actual nominated and judged award.