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I've only skimmed, excuse the laxness.

[quote="Darth Kruor":gc6tze4r]Best Pureblood Sith, Kissai subspecies.

No?[/quote:gc6tze4r]

You only want this as you know that if it was a straight "Best Pureblood Sith" then I'd win it, time and time again.. which isn't fair to anyone else ;p



[quote="Dark Lord Villa":gc6tze4r][quote="Plu Or'dinii":gc6tze4r]Best retired GEC High Councilor

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No?

Ok, more seriously, how about Best Whill?[/quote:gc6tze4r]

That was considered alongside Best Councillor but was decided against on 2 grounds: 1. We wanted to keep the awards to RPing awards as much as possible; 2. We didn't feel it right to reward a Whill/Councillor for simply doing his/her duty within a position he/she accepted.[/quote:gc6tze4r]
What he said.





[quote="Dark Lord Villa":gc6tze4r][quote="Adrien Draykon":gc6tze4r][quote="Dark Lord Villa":gc6tze4r]It might be worth mentioning timescales - while adding a couple of new awards would be fine, adding numerous would require the ditching of others so you might want to consider which awards you wouldn't mind [i:gc6tze4r]not[/i:gc6tze4r] seeing again.[/quote:gc6tze4r]
I think this would be less of an issue with a full time staff.[/quote:gc6tze4r]

Less of an issue for sure, but we still couldn't end up with a stupid number of awards because the ceremony can only feasibly be going on for so long[/quote:gc6tze4r]
I would absolutely [b:gc6tze4r]love[/b:gc6tze4r] having a full-time staff... but it's easier said than done. Like Councillor applications, we'd have to go through the whole process of applications, screening, debating, etc. all before we 'hired' a single one of them (lest we hear cries of "favouritism").

And, just to add to Villa's talk about timescales:
The organisation for this years Sithies (2011) started in January.. it was an extremely slow start, but that's when it began. [i:gc6tze4r][b:gc6tze4r][u:gc6tze4r]SIX MONTHS[/u:gc6tze4r][/b:gc6tze4r][/i:gc6tze4r]. That's how long it took the Management team to get things in place (that includes acquiring Judges, awards, location, everything). With a full-time staff I think I could cut it down to 3 months.. but that wouldn't happen in their first year.
The event itself ran for 12 days; I should know, I was online for 90% of that time. The Main Hall was open for nigh on 7 of those days. Now, imagine if you will, trying to organise people from all across the globe to be on at the same time (which also happens to occur during one of America's largest holidays); be in the same place; deal with hissy-fits, missing personnel, missing award nominees/recipients; and attempt to run an awards show... and then you may just [i:gc6tze4r]start[/i:gc6tze4r] to fathom the job we in the Management team face every year.

Finally, please don't see this as me ranting - as I am so not ranting right now. This is just me pointing out a few things. It's not aimed at anyone, it's not accusing anyone of anything; it's just some facts, that's all.

And now imagine that I oversee it all and do bugger all with the ceremony!

Adds nothing to Grizz's argument, just wanted to point out that arguably the most stressful part of the whole thing (getting people online, getting presenters online at the same time, organising an order for the awards etc.), with only possibly getting judges and the actual ball rolling as more difficult, has little to do with me any more. I confirm the awards for the year, actively judge them, keep people on task, and then gracefully bow out. Been the same for 2 years now.

Maybe next year I'll be more involved....

I'm not entirely sure if this thread is still being monitored, or if you guys are even considering taking new categories, but I think I've got a good one.


Biggest Bombshell

That moment when something so massive happens, that is such a game-changing moment in an RP or Universe-wide that it makes everyone go "Holy s--- did that really just happen?!?"

Or something like that.

I lurk everywhere

We are currently discussing new catagories, decision will probably be made this weekend on which ones we are doing this time.

[quote="The Holy Man":3tazlxyf][size=150:3tazlxyf][b:3tazlxyf]Biggest Bombshell[/b:3tazlxyf][/size:3tazlxyf]

That moment when something so massive happens, that is such a game-changing moment in an RP or Universe-wide that it makes everyone go "Holy s--- did that really just happen?!?"[/quote:3tazlxyf]
[action:3tazlxyf]WE LIKES NEW CHANGE[/action:3tazlxyf]

The forming of the "Sith Empire" by Sinistra I believe is one such moment... Just saying.

Or the formation of the actual Galactic Republic. Or the final unification after nearly five years of separation of the Jedi Order.

I like the Jedi Order one. Though the Republic is a good one too.

I unfortunately admit the Sith unification is impressive if it gets full strength and holds together.

I had two ideas for Sithies that I think would really honor skills that often fall by the wayside for these things:

Best Short Post
For a lot of posting on this site, quantity=quality. Often that's the case because many of the writers who DO write well, write in large quantities, and tend towards long, short-story-to-novelesque posts with lots of description and character development all self-contained in the post.
However, there are situations where These. Just. Aren't. Appropriate.
Whether it's the style of writing, the event they're dictating, or the fact that a long post would slow down the action, I've seen many situations where a post of no less than a paragraph have more impact and effectiveness for me than an entire page of detailed RPing. So I propose an award for people who are able to perform such a miracle--economy of words without economy of awesome!
Rules would have to put limits on what dictates a short post, which would be determined by the judges involved, but I'd suggest no more than two paragraphs, tops. Preferably short paragraphs. It would probably be very similar to the current Best Post Category, and for me any winner of this award would be considered FOR the Best Post category, but the extent of that division would, again, be left to the judges.

Best Dialogue
The trick to this one is that this award would have to go to two separate RPers engaging in ONE dialogue, rather than one RPer writing a dialogue all by him/herself. Proper dialogue between two PCs is damned difficult, and I've seen many cases where it dissolves into weirdness and confusion and the type of speechlike talk no one ever uses in real life. This award would go to two RPers because they've managed to circumvent those issues, and make their characters converse in a way that is fully in character, fully relateable and understandable, doesn't slow down the flow of the story, and is above all ENTERTAINING. I wouldn't care what the dialogue is about--it could be about muffins for all I care--but hey, who wants to read a bunch of terrible dialogue forever? That's one of the reasons people hated Episode II the most, right?

I like the sound of those ideas. Could actually promote more RP amongst those of us who struggle to write out lengthy posts and character interaction.

[quote="The Holy Man":3umqakts]I'm not entirely sure if this thread is still being monitored, or if you guys are even considering taking new categories, but I think I've got a good one.


Biggest Bombshell

That moment when something so massive happens, that is such a game-changing moment in an RP or Universe-wide that it makes everyone go "Holy s--- did that really just happen?!?"

Or something like that.[/quote:3umqakts]

Something like "No. [i:3umqakts]I[/i:3umqakts] am your father!".

I think that fitting. Love it.

Also, love these two:

[quote="Vidalu Na'an":3umqakts]I had two ideas for Sithies that I think would really honor skills that often fall by the wayside for these things:

[color=#BF0000:3umqakts][u:3umqakts]Best Short Post[/u:3umqakts][/color:3umqakts]
For a lot of posting on this site, quantity=quality. Often that's the case because many of the writers who DO write well, write in large quantities, and tend towards long, short-story-to-novelesque posts with lots of description and character development all self-contained in the post.
However, there are situations where These. Just. Aren't. Appropriate.
Whether it's the style of writing, the event they're dictating, or the fact that a long post would slow down the action, I've seen many situations where a post of no less than a paragraph have more impact and effectiveness for me than an entire page of detailed RPing. So I propose an award for people who are able to perform such a miracle--[color=#FFBF00:3umqakts][i:3umqakts]economy of words without economy of awesome![/i:3umqakts][/color:3umqakts]
Rules would have to put limits on what dictates a short post, which would be determined by the judges involved, but I'd suggest no more than two paragraphs, tops. Preferably short paragraphs. It would probably be very similar to the current Best Post Category, and for me any winner of this award would be considered FOR the Best Post category, but the extent of that division would, again, be left to the judges.

[color=#BF0000:3umqakts][u:3umqakts]Best Dialogue[/u:3umqakts][/color:3umqakts]
The trick to this one is that this award would have to go to two separate RPers engaging in ONE dialogue, rather than one RPer writing a dialogue all by him/herself. Proper dialogue between two PCs is damned difficult, and I've seen many cases where it dissolves into weirdness and confusion and the type of speechlike talk no one ever uses in real life. This award would go to two RPers because they've managed to circumvent those issues, and make their characters converse in a way that is fully [color=#FFBF00:3umqakts][i:3umqakts]in character[/i:3umqakts][/color:3umqakts], fully[color=#FFBF00:3umqakts] [i:3umqakts]relateable [/i:3umqakts][/color:3umqakts]and [color=#FFBF00:3umqakts][i:3umqakts]understandable[/i:3umqakts][/color:3umqakts], [color=#FFBF00:3umqakts][i:3umqakts]doesn't slow down the flow of the story[/i:3umqakts][/color:3umqakts], and is above all [color=#FFBF00:3umqakts][i:3umqakts][b:3umqakts]ENTERTAINING[/b:3umqakts][/i:3umqakts][/color:3umqakts]. I wouldn't care what the dialogue is about--it could be about muffins for all I care--but hey, who wants to read a bunch of terrible dialogue forever? That's one of the reasons people hated Episode II the most, right?[/quote:3umqakts]

We'll keep them in mind for next year now, this years award catagories have already been chosen and can be found in JvSrp for anyone that wants to see what we are planning.

Thank you

Best Rivalry

An award for two writers who have put their characters against one another time and time again. This is not just for people constantly fighting, though: this would be all about the history, the backstory as well, what has driven these two to such lengths as to constantly meddle in one another's affairs.

I dunno about that one. Most awards are all-inclusive, which is to say that anybody from having >10 posts to having <10,000 posts has an even chance of being nominated or winning, insofar as they meet the criteria and write well. The award you're proposing basically requires a long-running series between two writers that have had time to develop it properly.

I'd have to disagree, in short, because that basically sounds like a veterans-only award.

[quote="Aherk Formidonis":2fg9w40z]I dunno about that one. Most awards are all-inclusive, which is to say that anybody from having >10 posts to having <10,000 posts has an even chance of being nominated or winning, insofar as they meet the criteria and write well. The award you're proposing basically requires a long-running series between two writers that have had time to develop it properly.

I'd have to disagree, in short, because that basically sounds like a veterans-only award.[/quote:2fg9w40z]


Very few of the awards are all-inclusive.

Best Light Sider
Best Dark Sider
Best Non-Force
Best Male
Best Female
Best Couple

Each of those awards, for instance, instantly cut out a majority of the site population from the running. Best Rivalry would be no different.

[quote="Aherk Formidonis":2c1por1g]I dunno about that one. Most awards are all-inclusive, which is to say that anybody from having >10 posts to having <10,000 posts has an even chance of being nominated or winning, insofar as they meet the criteria and write well. The award you're proposing basically requires a long-running series between two writers that have had time to develop it properly.

I'd have to disagree, in short, because that basically sounds like a veterans-only award.[/quote:2c1por1g]

If this becomes a Sithy next year, players would have a [i:2c1por1g]whole year[/i:2c1por1g] to develop and maintain a rivalry. Totally doable, not just for veterans.

And what then, of the newbies that season? Categories aren't announced too terribly long in advance.

Then perhapse that award, that year, is not for them. But if they wanted to win that ward the following year, it would still be feasible.

It would be the same for any category.
Would you expect some newbie to show up in May with a new Sith character and be immediately in the running for Best Darksider? Best Male/Female Character? Or Best Overall RPer?
I would think not, for that is not quite sufficient time for a character to be properly developed and make a real impact on the Uni. And yet we still have these awards in order to recognize those who have.

Not every award is going to be available for everyone, as the Gambler has already aptly demonstrated. That doesn't mean they should not be considered.

I don't think there's anything wrong with some of the awards being only really feasible for veterans. There is, after all, an award only feasible for newbies. And as pointed out, even if the award isn't accessible this year, seeing it there, and seeing the winners or the contenders for it, could well inspire those newbies and give them ideas for the direction of their characters, give them some inspiration, something to think about. Then next year, they could well be in with a shot at it.

Also, I think there should be an Award called the"Dav's Ego Award for outstanding contribution to Dav's Ego", and I award it personally to the people who make me feel really really good about myself...